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Post by Aνα∂αƘє∂ανяα on Dec 2, 2015 18:00:24 GMT
I need help building a stabthrough deck, preferably one with easily available creatures. Any suggestions for creatures and/or Hero are welcome. I'm trying to use the best of what I've got so far, and, this is what I have(planned),
4 x Ursa(ready) 1 x Graboid w Stab 6(currently farming) 1 x Cyclops w Stab 6(currently farming) 1 x Border Ranger w Stab 6 (ready to meld) 1 x Seraph w Stab 6 ( currently farming) 2 x Recyclers
Hero - Possibly Berserker
The other things I considered were, an all Rager Stab deck, Archmage w FA and Lazy Guard w Stab.
I'm looking to kill Heroes with HP around the 40-50k mark. What other creature combinations or deck ideas work?
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Post by stormweaver83 on Dec 2, 2015 18:52:53 GMT
Sword master and techno chief are also viable stab melds of you have some to spare, but they aren't farm able.
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Post by bemyservant on Dec 2, 2015 18:57:05 GMT
I dont want to disappiont you, but i dont think it will work with the creatures you have. Even killing a 15k-hp-hero will cause BIG probplems if it's not impossible especially when the enemy has oracle and / or some FA-crits! Stab without multiple sweeping blow is not really working. The idea is to kill the enemy hero as fast as possible, before all your crits are down, which is easy as your crits are suited for killing the hero and not surviving and fighting enemy creatures. It's all about who is faster and well, this doenst seem very fast. Stabiods are great, Stabrangers too, 1-2 ursas can be seens as fillers but the rest is just not really working for you. And crippling your speed with adding 2 recycler makes things even worse in your setup imho. Dont expect too much. I have a PK-Deck with 2xStabranger, 2xStab-Chiefs, 2x SpiritS, 1x Gorgon and 3xDiscord-Witches + Royal Guard to keep the crits alive a little bit longer and every enemy with more than 20k is hard and above 30k is impossible if his deck is not really weak, so a would have probably killed him with anything else anyway. Next meldevent will give me 1 Staboid, 1 Stab-SM and another StabRanger. Hope this will work better... You could perhaps start with some witches (or Gorgon / Spirit Siren, if you have) and slowly build up your stabcreatures. Everything is good with sweeping blow besides Cyclops imho. It has low hp and FA is very common. So in manual mode, you have to position your creatures very carefully, to not place a sweeping-stab-crit in front of FA. The randomness of instakill can wreck you entire plan! Edit: you could have opened this thread in the deckbuilding sub-forum
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Post by Aνα∂αƘє∂ανяα on Dec 2, 2015 19:45:06 GMT
I dont want to disappiont you, but i dont think it will work with the creatures you have. Even killing a 15k-hp-hero will cause BIG probplems if it's not impossible especially when the enemy has oracle and / or some FA-crits! Stab without multiple sweeping blow is not really working. The idea is to kill the enemy hero as fast as possible, before all your crits are down, which is easy as your crits are suited for killing the hero and not surviving and fighting enemy creatures. It's all about who is faster and well, this doenst seem very fast. Stabiods are great, Stabrangers too, 1-2 ursas can be seens as fillers but the rest is just not really working for you. And crippling your speed with adding 2 recycler makes things even worse in your setup imho. Dont expect too much. I have a PK-Deck with 2xStabranger, 2xStab-Chiefs, 2x SpiritS, 1x Gorgon and 3xDiscord-Witches + Royal Guard to keep the crits alive a little bit longer and every enemy with more than 20k is hard and above 30k is impossible if his deck is not really weak, so a would have probably killed him with anything else anyway. Next meldevent will give me 1 Staboid, 1 Stab-SM and another StabRanger. Hope this will work better... You could perhaps start with some witches (or Gorgon / Spirit Siren, if you have) and slowly build up your stabcreatures. Everything is good with sweeping blow besides Cyclops imho. It has low hp and FA is very common. So in manual mode, you have to position your creatures very carefully, to not place a sweeping-stab-crit in front of FA. The randomness of instakill can wreck you entire plan! Edit: you could have opened this thread in the deckbuilding sub-forum Haha, I know what you mean. The idea of killing the Hero as fast as possible is something I totally get. In fact, I run a pretty good curse deck (destroys 20-25k Hero Hp) that's helped me till Map 13 so far. The point of this experiment, however, is to explore if the crits can stay for longer(like till round 30+) and kill the Hero. That way, I can use ordinary crits and kill advanced decks(read multiple recycle / rebirth decks). The reason I didn't mention any more Staboids is because they're a pain in the arse to farm and Rangers are too unpredictable to obtain. I really want to see if shitty(read ordinary) creatures can achieve what most stab decks can. I must say that this is purely an experiment ,like my Zora deck. It's not to be taken too seriously. So yeah , only shitty creatures allowed
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Post by wraithbone on Dec 2, 2015 20:32:05 GMT
I am only starting tot build my stab crits recently and what worked for me is to introduce them slowly through my curse deck. A staboid with the stabthrough from ursa is a beast!
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Post by Mandragora on Dec 2, 2015 21:03:03 GMT
Moved to melding
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Post by selesnia on Dec 3, 2015 13:44:06 GMT
Wouldn't this be better in deck building? There is talked about a stab through deck and what is the cheapest way to achieve it. Nothing about melding even though they belong or might happen in the deck for it.
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Post by taas on Dec 3, 2015 13:47:33 GMT
Wouldn't this be better in deck building? There is talked about a stab through deck and what is the cheapest way to achieve it. Nothing about melding even though they belong or might happen in the deck for it.
Yes, it would.
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Post by Mandragora on Dec 3, 2015 14:54:57 GMT
Yeah, someone move it again please, I cant do it right now
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Post by taas on Dec 3, 2015 15:03:11 GMT
Yeah, someone move it again please, I cant do it right now Moved.
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Post by Aνα∂αƘє∂ανяα on Dec 3, 2015 15:08:40 GMT
Sorry for all the trouble guys!
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Post by taas on Dec 3, 2015 15:34:17 GMT
Sorry for all the trouble guys! No trouble in here
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Post by nemesis101 on Dec 6, 2015 9:38:19 GMT
I'm at the brink of having a Stabthrough Deck of my own, waiting on Meld Event. Mine is also cheap-ass. Mabey it could help you.
Royal Guard Blessings LV.7 Human Aura LV.7 Faith Heal LV.6 (want Entrap 3/4) Ice Shell 6
Graboid [Stabthrough 6] Graboid [Stabthrough 6] Techno-Chief [Stabthrough 6] Techno-Chief [Stabthrough 6] Border Ranger [Stabthrough 6] Border Ranger [Stabthrough 6] Spirit Siren (want to put Revive, when I get it on one) Spirit Siren Spirit Siren The Puppeteer (want to put Immunity 7 on her)
The Spirit Sirens could be replaced by Dark With with Discord 8 or with The Puppeteers with Immunity 7+. I'm also thinking about some Recyclers in it, like Swordmaster and Horned Beast.
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Post by Aνα∂αƘє∂ανяα on Dec 6, 2015 14:12:33 GMT
I'm at the brink of having a Stabthrough Deck of my own, waiting on Meld Event. Mine is also cheap-ass. Mabey it could help you. Royal Guard Blessings LV.7 Human Aura LV.7 Faith Heal LV.6 (want Entrap 3/4) Ice Shell 6
Graboid [Stabthrough 6]Graboid [Stabthrough 6]Techno-Chief [Stabthrough 6]Techno-Chief [Stabthrough 6]Border Ranger [Stabthrough 6]Border Ranger [Stabthrough 6]Spirit Siren (want to put Revive, when I get it on one)Spirit Siren Spirit Siren The Puppeteer (want to put Immunity 7 on her)The Spirit Sirens could be replaced by Dark With with Discord 8 or with The Puppeteers with Immunity 7+. I'm also thinking about some Recyclers in it, like Swordmaster and Horned Beast. Pretty solid! Waiting for more Rangers myself. A little curious here, do single stabbers not work? Like Dark Witch with Stabthrough, Archmage w FA ?
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Post by nemesis101 on Dec 7, 2015 7:06:18 GMT
I'm at the brink of having a Stabthrough Deck of my own, waiting on Meld Event. Mine is also cheap-ass. Mabey it could help you. Royal Guard Blessings LV.7 Human Aura LV.7 Faith Heal LV.6 (want Entrap 3/4) Ice Shell 6
Graboid [Stabthrough 6]Graboid [Stabthrough 6]Techno-Chief [Stabthrough 6]Techno-Chief [Stabthrough 6]Border Ranger [Stabthrough 6]Border Ranger [Stabthrough 6]Spirit Siren (want to put Revive, when I get it on one)Spirit Siren Spirit Siren The Puppeteer (want to put Immunity 7 on her)The Spirit Sirens could be replaced by Dark With with Discord 8 or with The Puppeteers with Immunity 7+. I'm also thinking about some Recyclers in it, like Swordmaster and Horned Beast. Pretty solid! Waiting for more Rangers myself. A little curious here, do single stabbers not work? Like Dark Witch with Stabthrough, Archmage w FA ? Single stabbers will work, but not good enough. The combination of Sweeping Blow, Stabthrough and the Stabthrough Rune does way more damage against the Hero.
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